There's danger in "I feel" statements, especially when we don't examine them closely enough.
Our culture has taught us that our feelings are valid, that we should pay attention to how we feel, and that we should honor our concerns. Gone are the days of suck-it-up-and-deal. We no longer feel obligated to spend Thanksgiving sitting quietly next to the great-uncle who molested us; we can speak out and refuse to attend the family celebration if he's going to be there.
At least, that's the way it's supposed to work.
But there's a big potential downside here, too, and I noticed it at work several years ago when my company started hiring security guards to walk the office halls after hours.
These men are there, ostensibly to make the employees - mostly women at my company - who work late feel safer. They have the opposite effect for me.
For one thing, the constant presence of the security guards reminds me that there is something to fear. More importantly, the guards themselves are sometimes quite creepy.
One guard had few teeth, incredibly offensive body odor, and a really bad habit of standing too close to me, while effectively blocking the only way out of my office, and talking to me for far too long. Dude, I'm not at work at midnight because I feel like chatting. I'm here because I'm on a major deadline and I'd really like to just finish up and get home to bed as soon as possible.
He creeped me out so much that I took to carrying a metal letter opener with me when I left my office to walk to the bathroom at night and on weekends, and I kept it within easy reach at my desk when I thought he might be stopping by. I also asked Paul to come by occasionally to bring me dinner. I called home to check in regularly too.
This guard was white, and as far as I know he was never fired. (When I came back from my year off, this particular guard was gone but he'd been there quite a while and might simply have left the job for another one.)
Another guard, who started around the same time, put out a completely different vibe. He was incredibly nice. He too would talk to me when I worked late at night, and I wished he would just let me work in peace, but his air was far less threatening. He never blocked my office doorway, and he never talked about violence or danger.
He was black, and he got fired after a few months. Some of my coworkers complained (anonymously, of course) that he made them "uncomfortable." When pressed, no one could provide an example of exactly what this guy had done wrong, but just being alone in the office with him at night was "uncomfortable" for some of my suburban, white, female coworkers.
Maybe he stood in the hallway and chatted with another male employee (also black, also fired) where they had a clear view of the women's restroom. Of course, there's a clear view of the women's restroom from just about anywhere in the main hallway. But that was enough.
A weekend janitor was recently fired for a similar reason, and, in fact, it turns out that an awful lot of the black men in maintenance, janitorial services, and security are fired because of employee complaints of "discomfort." The official reason given is usually something about chatting in the hallways at work, though we all do that, or no reason at all for the sub-contractors like the security guards and janitors.
This is insidious and hard to prove, but it's racism all the same. Why does this particular security guard bug you? Does he stand too close? Spend too much time gleefully reminding you of how vulnerable you are? Regale you with tales of strange cars parked near yours in the parking lot? Remind you of how he knows your license plate number, and point out that you two are the only ones in the office this late? No? Hmm.
I wish I knew how to fight this. I wish I knew what to do other than to get futilely furious.
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Wow.
How, wow? Wow, like I'm totally devaluing these women's concerns? I hope not. Because I really think it's more than that, though I'm not sure if I explained enough to make that come across here.
I do talk to my coworkers about it, when something like this happens. I do press for details, and try to make it clear when I think a line has been crossed.
But I don't think it does any good. And I find it really depressing.
I hate when this kind of crap happens. Because it's so hard to fight "feelings," even when those feelings are simply quiet racism. Ugh.
People, and god St. Louis can be so damned racist, irritate me with their ignorance.
I completely agree with you. I hate racism of all sorts. I also hate it when someone is doing a poor job but when they're disciplined, they play the "race" card. As in, "I wouldn't be getting fired if I weren't black/hispanic/middle eastern/etc." Rascism goes both ways. I've been run out of a predominately black bar because I was white. I was shocked that the people I had gone to great lengths to defend and befriend were now threatening physical harm if we did not leave, simply because I was white (or really, the men I was with were white).
Racism sucks - no matter what color you are.
It's a shame that your company fired the men simply for making people uncomfortable when nobody could cite an example of a wrong doing.
I also think it's sad that your co-workers were uncomfortable because of the color of the guards skin. Were they also uncomfortable with the white guard that creeped you out or just the black males?
I don't know that it could be made right. Would one woman praising the work of someone be enough to keep him around even if multiple women complained?
I wish there was an obvious solution.
We have after-hours security guards at my work. They do not make me feel at all safe. Thankfully, I rarely work late.
Hubby and I have been wondering if something similar happened at Peanut's daycare. One of his caretakers was moved to a different room after several parents complained that she was sharing the kids' food. The ladies in his previous room did the same thing. As long as they weren't sharing directly off each other's plates and Peanut was getting his fill, we didn't care.
Yep, the woman who was reprimanded and moved was the only black caretaker there. I understand there may have been allergy issues involved, but I wonder why it was OK when the white ladies were doing the same. We made sure to tell the office that we liked her and didn't feel it necessary for her to be moved.
Melissa, yeah.
CCW, as far as I know, no one filed a complaint against the creepy white guard. He never did anything . . . overt enough that I felt comfortably bringing it up with HR. He just made me incredibly uncomfortable.
In hallway conversations, I only heard about how "uncomfortable" other women were with the black guards. I'd always say something, of course, like mention the creepy white guard, and press for details about exactly what was so disturbing about the black guards, etc. But I'd usually get blank face in response.
I don't know about the work praising thing. I definitely thought of that. But what could I say? It's not like I worked on projects with the security guards or janitors. The best I could do was, "Hey, he never bothered me." Which isn't all that strong of an endorsement.
SeasonalKat . . . management? Uh, no, I don't think so. I don't know anyone over in HR anymore, but . . . hmm. I don't know who I could go to who's powerful enough to make a difference and would be . . . sympathetic.
Selzach, that sounds like exactly the same damn thing to me.
Marriage-101, I strongly disagree with you.
1) "I wouldn't be getting fired if I weren't black/hispanic/middle eastern/etc."
How do you know? Clearly, sometimes someone *is* getting fired because of his or her race. And it can be hard to tell, especially if while someone's own work isn't exemplary, maybe he's not really doing anything significantly worse than what other, whiter employees are doing.
And once you've experienced this kind of discrimination enough, I imagine it's easy to see it all around.
2) "Rascism goes both ways."
No, it doesn't. Sure, strained race relations go both ways. And there are definitely black people who don't like white people.
But my ancestors were slave owners, not slaves. They came to this country of their own free will. They did not live under Jim Crow Laws until fairly recently.
In no way is "being run out of a predominantly black bar" for being white the same as losing a job (or being charged with a crime, or not getting a fair trial, or not getting a loan, etc.) because of being black. No comparison.
I respect the right of women to congregate in women-only spaces. I respect the right of any group that has historically been marginalized to do so.
It's not like black men in dance clubs are the ones running Fortune 100 companies and owning all the private golf courses where business relationships are formed.
Sarahlynn,
1) I know because I have seen this first hand. I won't get into details on here, because it's work related and I respect my co-workers privacy, but I DO know. Please don't underestimate my experience in this. You don't know me. Sometimes, it's the situation you outlined, which is unfortunate and sometimes, it isn't and the firing is deserved. Just accept that please. It isn't ALWAYS about race.
On a separate note, we have security guards too, and every year around Christmas we take up donations for him. He's a wonderful man and I feel very safe when he walks me to my car. Oh, and he just happens to be black.
2) There are black people who HATE white people. Not just dislike. Have you ever been prejudiced against because of your color?
I wasn't trying to compare your apples to oranges. I was just saying that I've witnessed my friends being threatened with bodily harm purely based on their color. Do I think it's justified? That my friends, my husband, should get punched in the face because once upon a time your family owned slaves? Absolutely not.
Marriage 101, I don't doubt that there are situations where someone is fired for cause and blames it on another factor (race, or sex, or "my boss just doesn't like me," or anything else).
I am also well aware that there are some black people who hate white people (and vice versa).
And of course I don't think that physically attacking someone because of the color of their skin is ever appropriate.
The difference is that in looking at an isolated incident and comparing to a systematic experience of opression by an entire race of people, that really *is* comparing apples to oranges.
As is discussing "racism" like it's the same black against white or white against black.
One big difference is that one is a response to the other, and there's no getting around the history there. It wasn't so long ago that blantant segregationists were running for President, and people were being lynched for simply being black. I'm not justifying racial violence. But I'm saying that *of course* there's going to be resultant anger from all that horribleness and it's just not the same.
So I call an incident like the one you describe a very unfortunate experience perpetuated by individuals.
I call the experience I describe a part of a larger problem in our society whereby racism is still very much causing an uneven playing field, encouraging the build-up of more anger, leading to more unfortunate experiences like yours.
Basically, it appears that we agree. I just didn't choose to say it in so many words.
The only thing I disagree with is this: As is discussing "racism" like it's the same black against white or white against black.
You're right, the history behind it is not the same, but racism, by definition, is the prejudice or discrimination of others and a belief that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race - black, white, red, yellow, whatever.
For lack of a better term, not yet created by the English language, when a black person hates a white person just for being white, they are in fact racist.
Again, I was not trying to compare the greater issue of the continued supression of African Americans to my isolated incident. I was merely sharing an experience. It doesn't feel so great to be judged based on the color of your skin. That was my point. So I apologize if my comment was misunderstood due to my use of the word "racism," but that is in fact what I experienced, by literal definition. I think you read into what I was saying a little too much. All other points, I could not agree more.
Gotta agree with Marriage there, it goes both ways and there's hypocrasy on both sides. A racist is a racist...many in our country just get a free pass on it if they're in the minority and they're judging the majority. Either way it goes though, it's a sad thing to see. In the IT field where I work, the more common racism now is the stereotyping and disproportionate opportunity for foreign nationals when compared with Americans. You mostly only see it in small doses, but just like the little things you see in our society between blacks and whites, you can always see small reminders of the extra difficulty workers from India (for example) have working in this land. Much like other minorities in the past, they frequently have to be twice as good for twice as long to get the same treatment as some of their peers.
Actually I worked at an Israei-owned and managed company in the past and funny enough the shoe was on the other foot there...there were a few token American managers, but predominantly the managers were foreign-born. Promotion opportunities weren't necessarily a fair playing field, but much like your security guard story, it was a bit insidious to prove. Any worse than the glass ceiling women face in many companies? Maybe not, but it was a bit novel to see the white males complaining about the system keeping them down.
In my opinion, humanity will always keep some stock in the 'you're more like me so we have more common ground than that other person' view. And it might not be a bad assumption to make in every situation. We're just shortsighted in that we frequently think of appearance as one of our first comparators. As a culture, you have to admit we're far better than where we were when our parents were kids, and miles ahead of where our grandparents were, but there's still a long way to go.
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree, Marriage-101 and Squeaky Mouse.
IMO, "A racist is a racist" over-simplifies matters. It's just not the same or equivalent "both ways."
Here's an interesting article on this issue from The Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/199311/reverse-racism
"Only if racism is thought of as something that occurs principally in the mind, a falling-away from proper notions of universal equality, can the desire of a victimized and terrorized people to band together be declared morally identical to the actions of their would-be executioners."
As far as defining racism, I like the Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
"The term "racism" is usually applied to the dominant group in a society, because it is that group which has the means to oppress others, but readily applies to any individual or group(s), regardless of social status or dominance."
But given the historical roots of the word described in the rest of the entry, I'd argue against the second part of the definition I quoted, that "racism" can "readily" apply to individuals from non-dominant groups.
The U.N. statement on racism says, in part,
"...any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life..."
There are individual instances of "racism" (any individual against any other individual of different skin color, etc.) of course. But the larger societal problem - the issue that really concerns me - is institutional racism. And I don't think that marginalized groups are significantly impairing dominant groups on a large scale.
IMO, using the word "racist" to apply to, say, a Jew's hatred of Nazis, or a black slave's hatred of white people in general, is a misuse of language and a fantastic use of political spin. It's exactly what the students at the University of Michigan were doing in their anti-affirmative action suit.
Yeah, that makes sense to me (especially the part about not bothering to get into the discussions anymore. It's my experience that most white people *never* talk about institutionalized power and privilege re: skin color, in any sort of group).
It's not a direct comparison, but as a feminist, I get really really annoyed by the guy who comes into every feminist conversation and demands that the feminists stop what they're doing and explain everything to him, all with a defensive 'what-you're-describing-doesn't-really exist' attitude.
It must be at least as frustrating to be in a similar situation all the time with regard to discuss race in mixed groups.
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